Abstract: As a producer at France Culture between 1976 and 2001, Franck Venaille, while continuing to publish books, used radio as a means of deploying his writing outside the literary institution. It offered him an extraordinary space for freedom and invention; it also allowed him to renew his reflection on the relationship between the artist and the "real", and gradually became, through the play of the voice, a sound stage presenting to the listeners, in fragments, his own inner drama.